On this thread? Or in the real world?
Both. I know you have yourself distinguished between the movement and organisation, but others are not.
But you didn't post a tweet containing hate fuelled bile. You posted the one where he said BLM is an organisation that hates America. And it is. Too many well meaning or easily duped people are getting on board the BLM bandwagon rather than listening to the right people. Some are even being bullied onto it.
No it's not. BLM is a movement not concerned with "hating America". You're conflating the movement with the organisation and those within that do want to promote Marxist principles. The organisation came after. The tweet wasn't taking aim at the organisation either, it was taking aim at the movement and anyone who supports it. No-one should be duped by Guiliani. It's very clear he was stoking division with that tweet, the same as his President does.
I suspect many are the same as me, supportive of the movement but not buying into any Marxist ideology.
I dont see how. BLM does not represent 'blacks'. It represents its own agenda.
Again the organisation. The movement does represent blacks.
Is it though? What is it actually fighting for? What is the social change they are after?
Is it justice for George Floyd? He's already getting it.
Is it Police reform? Ok, what are their strategies for that? Does anyone know? Which police institutions are BLM conversing with? What data are they using? Are their ideas workable?
Is it the total eradication of racism? That's impossible, it would be undesirable to even try.
Is it just to fight racism in general? Yeah great. But who doesn't do that? Every institution is already committed to that, and I cant think of a single one that doesn't (except perhaps the KKK).
Floyd hasn't got justice yet. No guarantee that he's going to.
I think we've covered the police reform aspect before, they want money diverted to community projects and more say in policing policy. As an example. I'm sure there's more.
(Worth noting at this point that "defunding the police" was immediately jumped on by those opposed, and saying that the idea was to get rid of the police altogether. Not the case).
I very much doubt anyone is engaging with them or willing to engage at this point at a political level, although I admit I'm not certain where they stand here.
Racism will not be eradicated, but people will still try. Nothing wrong with that. Aside from the KKK, you forgot the biggest institution of all - Trump's government. It's doing and has done nothing to fight racism. You could aim that at previous administrations as well, but for sure this current one has in no way committed to improving relations in any form, it has in fact sought instead to inflame them on a regular basis. As it will continue to as the election approaches. You'll see I'm sure. I fully expect BLM to get involved in the election as well.
Speaking of which Trump has this election to win and he needs his support base believing he has no time for the likes of BLM. Why do you think he's so keen to label them all enemies of the state? Deem anyone or anything on the left a terrorist organisation? That's exactly what Guiliani was getting at as well.
I've seen that same language used to describe foreign terrorists. Hating America and it's values. It's not a coincidence.
That language does not heal. It's only purpose is to divide.