Any news about Philips PUS8505

You're right, even I can't get rid of that red one with the R127. Your values correspond exactly to my oled, moreover with the green at maximum, we have more contrast and brightness than the r127.
I keep these values and later I'll try to set the colors better. I will also try to calibrate with the G-127 and see how it changes ..
Above your values and below oled gz950 Netflix calibrated mod:
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I also tried the white point of plasma kuro but the red remains:
Red 127
Green 118
Blue 71
Red Hue = -1 Sat = +1/0
Yellow Hue = -2 Sat = 0
Green Hue = +3 Sat = +1
Cyan Hue = -1 Sat = +2
Blue Hue = -1 Sat = -1
Magenta Hue = +1 Sat = 0

the colorimeters are not reliable so I decided to order a spectrophotometer and get the most out of this screen ..
I’m now on:

Red 110
Green 120
Blue 55

As I think it gives the best compromise between contrast ratio, which I would imagine has dropped a little, and image accuracy which looks slightly better and even closer to my iPhone XS. Believe me, I’ve toiled over hours of footage, comparing the two displays side by side and I don’t think I can get them any closer without having the necessary equipment to hand and adjusting the 20 point settings.

I’d love to know your thoughts on these settings, especially if your colorimeter is freshly calibrated.
 
markfawcett
I have not yet profiled (within 1 week my i1pro 2 spetro arrives). Meanwhile, I tried with calman 2020 and I found that the colors are better than hcfr:

Picture style: ISF Day:
Colour: 50
Backligt contrast: 100 (312 nit)
Video contrast: 100
Gamma +4

2 point Colour temperature - Warm D65:
R-127
G-116
B-65
R-BL -2
G-BL 0
B-BL +1

Colour Control:
Red Hue = 0 Sat = -2
Yellow Hue = -3 Sat = -1
Green Hue = +2 Sat = -1
Cyan Hue = 0 Sat = +2
Blue Hue = -1 Sat = -2
Magenta Hue = +1 Sat = -1

Philips has an odd gamma that looks like inverted bt.1886
Yesterday I spent a whole day building range bt.1886 with 20 points + gamma 0 (a rare thing but strangely it seems that these work) and look where it is I had to go down to follow it:

Picture style: ISF Day:
Colour: 50
Backligt contrast: 100 (307 nit)
Video contrast: 100
Gamma: 0
Dynamic contrast: Minimum
R-119
G-112
B-52
R-BL +3
G-BL 0
B-BL +4

White Point 20 point (Corresponds to gamma bt.1886)
Level 1 = R +3, G +15, B -15
Level 2 = R +12, G +13, B +3
Level 3 = R +9 G +11, B +4
Level 4 = R +7, G +7, B 0
Level 5 = R +1, G +3, B 0
Level 6 = R 0, G +4, B 0
Level 7 = R 0, G +2, B 0
Level 8 = R 0, G +1, B 0
Level 9 = R 0, G 0, B 0
Level 10 = R 0, G -2, B 0
Level 11 = R -1, G -6, B 0
Level 12 = R 0 G -7, B 0
Level 13 = R 0, G -8, B 0
Level 14 = R 0, G -7, B 0
Level 15 = R 0, G -8, B 0
Level 16 = R 0, G -4, B 0
Level 17 = R 0, G -3, B 0
Level 18 = R 0, G -3, B 0
Level 19 = R 0, G -2, B 0
Level 20 = R +2, G +2, B -2

Colour Control (optional):
Red Hue = -1 Sat = +1
Yellow Hue = -4 Sat = 0
Green Hue = +2 Sat = +1
Cyan Hue = 0 Sat = +2
Blue Hue = -1 Sat = +1
Magenta Hue = +1 Sat = +1

Obviously these are just the tests waiting for the right profile ..
 
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ips contrast is like 1000, va is like 4000, ips has gray black and bad screen uniformity
But even our ips (with image optimized dimming) reaches 5000: 1 in sdr and more than 10000 in hdr

p.s. Philips mounts LG's ips panels and therefore they are nanocell ..
"It does not matter what the marketing name of this technology is (nano, qled etc..), the essence is the same everywhere: to expand the color range of displayed shades due to additional phosphor filters, which allow you to obtain more "pure" spectra of the main color-forming components (RGB).
True, in the 85x5 series there are also models with VA matrices (for example, in the 58th diagonal) and here the big question is what kind of matrix is there and is there an extended color range (WCG)."

In fact, according to the review, the 58pus8505 covers 83% dci-p3
 
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But even our ips (with image optimized dimming) reaches 5000: 1 in sdr and more than 10000 in hdr

p.s. Philips mounts LG's ips panels and therefore they are nanocell ..
"It does not matter what the marketing name of this technology is (nano, qled etc..), the essence is the same everywhere: to expand the color range of displayed shades due to additional phosphor filters, which allow you to obtain more "pure" spectra of the main color-forming components (RGB).
True, in the 85x5 series there are also models with VA matrices (for example, in the 58th diagonal) and here the big question is what kind of matrix is there and is there an extended color range (WCG)."

In fact, according to the review, the 58pus8505 covers 83% dci-p3
Not all of LG's IPS panels are NanoCell. So how do you know that these are NanoCell panels?
 
I’m now on:

Red 110
Green 120
Blue 55
On my panel these values are fine (grayscale is clean too). In my opinion, for the moment it is enough to adjust only the grays and not touch the colors or set them by eye (the colorimeter without correction sees them badly)
p.s. With 20 calibrated points and dynamic contrast on the minimum, it becomes a whole different image and lots of details come out!

Daveboi7
Actually I don't care about the technology that Philips uses, I have a Panasonic oled and I don't find any difference on the quality of the image (I'm not talking about blacks of course). Except that Philips needs to be calibrated and Panasonic already perfect ootb
 
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I think it’s fine for gaming. Refresh rate is higher in game mode as expected, it’s snappy for the price. More expensive sets probably have a higher refresh rate but it’s fine.

It’s my first time seeing HDR and I like it. I think this display is 400 nits from what I’ve seen online, so HDR purists may say it’s not true and also because the set it’s not OLED set and doesn’t have local dimming (Philips advertise that the set has “micro dimming pro” as an alternative). Again for the price I think it’s good value and the HDR is a noticeable difference. The reason I bought the TV is for gaming.
I’ve attached a pic showing the HDR picture using the default HDR picture calibration, playing Horizon Zero Dawn on PS4 Slim (which i believe outputs a simulated HDR signal, which the TV does recognise as a HDR Signal through a “HDR signal” pop up).

Have you tried the micro dimming feature? Does it do anything for the black levels and at what cost?
 
Have you tried the micro dimming feature? Does it do anything for the black levels and at what cost?
It’s always on as it doesn’t appear in the settings, so I can’t really say what impact it has. I will say that I think the black levels are good. I use the TV in a dark room which probably makes a difference (picture attached showing film black bars).


Update on the green line - Equinox (the company that handles repairs for Philips) ordered “the parts” needed to fix my unit on Sunday and said it usually takes 3-5 working days for them to arrive. They said an engineer will be in touch when that happens to schedule the repair and they will do it on site (at my house).

Really hoping it’s done by the end of next week. Argos doubled down that they would not accept a return and that I first had to prove through the manufacturer that I didn’t damage it.
 

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They really cannot do that. Your contract is with Argos whether they like it or not. Don't let them weasel out of their legal requirements. Mind you I don't know when you bought the tv.
 
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They really cannot do that. Your contract is with Argos whether they like it or not. Don't let them weasel out of their legal requirements. Mind you I don't know when you bought the tv.
I've heard of a few people having problems with Argos when returning goods.
 
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Markfawcett
Je n'ai pas encore profilé (sous 1 semaine mon i1pro 2 spetro arrive). En attendant, j'ai essayé avec calman 2020 et j'ai trouvé que les couleurs sont meilleures que hcfr:

Style d'image: Journée ISF:
Couleur: 50
Contraste rétro-éclairé: 100 (312 nit)
Contraste vidéo: 100
Gamma +4

Température de couleur 2 points - Warm D65:
R-127
G-116
B-65
R-BL -2
G-BL 0
B-BL +1

Contrôle des couleurs:
Teinte rouge = 0 samedi = -2
Teinte jaune = -3 Sat = -1
Teinte verte = +2 samedi = -1
Teinte cyan = 0 samedi = +2
Teinte bleue = -1 sam = -2
Teinte magenta = +1 samedi = -1

Philips a un gamma étrange qui ressemble à un bt inversé.1886
Hier, j'ai passé une journée entière à construire la gamme bt.1886 avec 20 points + gamma 0 (chose rare mais étrangement il semble que ceux-ci fonctionnent) et regardez où c'est que j'ai dû descendre pour le suivre:

Style d'image: Journée ISF:
Couleur: 50
Contraste rétroéclairé: 100 (307 nit)
Contraste vidéo: 100
Gamma: 0
Contraste dynamique: minimum
R-119
G-112
B-52
R-BL +3
G-BL 0
B-BL +4

Point blanc 20 points ( correspond à gamma bt.1886 )
Niveau 1 = R +3, G +15, B -15
Niveau 2 = R +12, G +13, B +3
Niveau 3 = R +9 G +11, B +4
Niveau 4 = R +7, G +7, B 0
Niveau 5 = R +1, G +3, B 0
Niveau 6 = R 0, G +4, B 0
Niveau 7 = R 0, G +2, B 0
Niveau 8 = R 0, G +1, B 0
Niveau 9 = R 0, G 0, B 0
Niveau 10 = R 0, G -2, B 0
Niveau 11 = R -1, G -6, B 0
Niveau 12 = R 0 G -7, B 0
Niveau 13 = R 0, G -8, B 0
Niveau 14 = R 0, G -7, B 0
Niveau 15 = R 0, G -8, B 0
Niveau 16 = R 0, G -4, B 0
Niveau 17 = R 0, G -3, B 0
Niveau 18 = R 0, G -3, B 0
Niveau 19 = R 0, G -2, B 0
Niveau 20 = R +2, G +2, B -2

Contrôle des couleurs (facultatif) :
Teinte rouge = -1 sam = +1
Teinte jaune = -4 Sat = 0
Teinte verte = +2 samedi = +1
Teinte cyan = 0 samedi = +2
Teinte bleue = -1 sam = +1
Teinte magenta = +1 samedi = +1

Évidemment, ce ne sont que les tests qui attendent le bon profil.
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Hope someone to share calibration for VA panels and 50 inch model in specific...
 
Yeh a VA panel calibration would be nice if at all possible. Still enjoying the TV after 2 months. Would have a go myself but between kids and work, by the time it rolls round to 8/9pm I am ready for a film and bed.
 
It would be great!
I am fighting with calibration now because I see too much colour banding sometimes and I don't know why... (I'm using one for the 58" model that should be ok for 50", more or less)
Do you see colour banding with the 50" model?
 
I had bad banding playing mafia remastered on the xbox but realised its the game, not the TV. Doom looks and plays excellent. Netflix is fine also. The amazon prime not playing hdr is annoying though.
 
I had bad banding playing mafia remastered on the xbox but realised its the game, not the TV. Doom looks and plays excellent. Netflix is fine also. The amazon prime not playing hdr is annoying though.

I wonder if the Prime issue is an android bug. Used to happen on my Nvidia Shield. It was fixed but I will check it again and see if it's back.
 
I should be joining this thread soon, going through it now to see what you guys have been talking about.

My Hisense 65m7000 had worsening backlight banding and the repair was deemed not financially viable, and I have chosen 65pus8555 as replacement.

None in stock at RS though the wait is 3 weeks, but I'm waiting as I want ambilight and no other Philips alternatives are there.
 
Prime HDR not working for me either, can get regular HDR from my Roku stick.
 
Just ordered and awaiting a 65PUS8505.

Ambilight was the way to go for us, and after seeing the 58'' to the store, I decided to go for 65''.

I will repost soon!
 
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Markfawcett
Je n'ai pas encore profilé (sous 1 semaine mon i1pro 2 spetro arrive). En attendant, j'ai essayé avec calman 2020 et j'ai trouvé que les couleurs sont meilleures que hcfr:

Style d'image: Journée ISF:
Couleur: 50
Contraste rétro-éclairé: 100 (312 nit)
Contraste vidéo: 100
Gamma +4

Température de couleur 2 points - Warm D65:
R-127
G-116
B-65
R-BL -2
G-BL 0
B-BL +1

Contrôle des couleurs:
Teinte rouge = 0 samedi = -2
Teinte jaune = -3 Sat = -1
Teinte verte = +2 samedi = -1
Teinte cyan = 0 samedi = +2
Teinte bleue = -1 sam = -2
Teinte magenta = +1 samedi = -1

Philips a un gamma étrange qui ressemble à un bt inversé.1886
Hier, j'ai passé une journée entière à construire la gamme bt.1886 avec 20 points + gamma 0 (chose rare mais étrangement il semble que ceux-ci fonctionnent) et regardez où c'est que j'ai dû descendre pour le suivre:

Style d'image: Journée ISF:
Couleur: 50
Contraste rétroéclairé: 100 (307 nit)
Contraste vidéo: 100
Gamma: 0
Contraste dynamique: minimum
R-119
G-112
B-52
R-BL +3
G-BL 0
B-BL +4

Point blanc 20 points ( correspond à gamma bt.1886 )
Niveau 1 = R +3, G +15, B -15
Niveau 2 = R +12, G +13, B +3
Niveau 3 = R +9 G +11, B +4
Niveau 4 = R +7, G +7, B 0
Niveau 5 = R +1, G +3, B 0
Niveau 6 = R 0, G +4, B 0
Niveau 7 = R 0, G +2, B 0
Niveau 8 = R 0, G +1, B 0
Niveau 9 = R 0, G 0, B 0
Niveau 10 = R 0, G -2, B 0
Niveau 11 = R -1, G -6, B 0
Niveau 12 = R 0 G -7, B 0
Niveau 13 = R 0, G -8, B 0
Niveau 14 = R 0, G -7, B 0
Niveau 15 = R 0, G -8, B 0
Niveau 16 = R 0, G -4, B 0
Niveau 17 = R 0, G -3, B 0
Niveau 18 = R 0, G -3, B 0
Niveau 19 = R 0, G -2, B 0
Niveau 20 = R +2, G +2, B -2

Contrôle des couleurs (facultatif) :
Teinte rouge = -1 sam = +1
Teinte jaune = -4 Sat = 0
Teinte verte = +2 samedi = +1
Teinte cyan = 0 samedi = +2
Teinte bleue = -1 sam = +1
Teinte magenta = +1 samedi = +1

Évidemment, ce ne sont que les tests qui attendent le bon profil.
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Thanks for the calibration 👍
 
Hi, im looking at this TV, always wanted an ambilight.

I will be coming from a Hisense 65M7000 - Nothing really wrong with the TV (other than the red hue on face bug which was finally fixed by manually trying 963 different firmwares, NOT OTA)

I generally don't use the Smart TV features as I have a high spec gaming "media centre" attached to my Amp then to the TV

Anyone got one of these connected the same? (PC>Amp>TV) any problems? Seems like a good price for a half decent TV!

Essentially, i'll be using it as a massive monitor :)
 
I created the correction table for my i1d3 and as I imagined, the probe had intolerable deviations (where i1pro2 sees Delta 0.5 - i1d3 without correction, with calman's old LCD profile, sees 4 (seen on screen).
I did a quick test with the patterns mobile forge but these are little accurate and I believe that from now on, for 20 pt. will be using LightSpace.
i1pro2 spectro:
Screenshot_20201028-095704.png

i1d3 2012 rev. A-02
Screenshot_20201028-095731.png


Picture style: ISF Day:
Colour: 50
Backligt contrast: 100 (318 nit)
Video contrast: 100
Gamma +4

2 point Colour temperature - Warm D65:
R-127
G-121
B-70
R-BL 0
G-BL 0
B-BL 0

Colour Control:
Red Hue = -1 Sat = +1
Yellow Hue = -2 Sat = -1
Green Hue = +2 Sat = 0
Cyan Hue = 0 Sat = +3
Blue Hue = -2 Sat = +1
Magenta Hue = +1 Sat = +1

After the 2 points of white, the colors also improve and it would be enough just to adjust 2pt., without touching CMS (I used sweeps at 10%):
D65 R127 G121 B70.PNG


markfawcett
Your 110,120,55:
Screenshot_20201028-095920.png


From the box, in movie mode with the warm temperature (the closest to 6500K), this is the situation:
Screenshot_20201028-095950.png

Basically, you can turn up the green channel by 13 notches and everything else should be adjusted (except gamma - that's hard work here with 20 points )
I am not saying that your panel IPS will be like mine, but at least you will have an idea where to move the regulators.
 
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