Some might want smaller screens but the trend is to go bigger.Many UK living rooms cannot take much bigger panels - we can see that in the clamour for 49inch and below OLED screens.
Unlikely to happen. A lot of the TV programmes broadcast on the other channels is old stuff that wasn't recorded in HD. Shopping channels don't need it either.and the upgrade of all SD channels to HD.
If that was the case surely the answer is this:Perhaps I am being ignorant, but surely upscaled content will never be as good as when the source and destination match each other pixel for pixel? That being the case, is there any point in buying a 8k TV to watch HD or 4k content?
Some might want smaller screens but the trend is to go bigger.
Unlikely to happen. A lot of the TV programmes broadcast on the other channels is old stuff that wasn't recorded in HD. Shopping channels don't need it either.
It was. But it's not where the largest growth is and "looking at it" isn't the same as "doing it."Yes but while there is a trend for bigger screens there is still demand for smaller screens, especially those who want to go OLED but do not have the space for a 55 inch panel. I'm pretty sure it's been covered several times on the podcast that Philips and others are looking at introducing OLED in smaller panel sizes for smaller homes/2nd screens.
It's still upscaled. Whether your TV does it or the HD feed does it.Agreed but I would still prefer if the TV channels output SD video on an HD feed with black bars either side as upscaled SD transmissions look terrible.
That's not going to be decided by a TV manufacturer. Samsung isn't going to be sending its engineers home as "4K is good enough." If they can produce 32K Panels you will get 32K panels. Whether you want them is irrelevant.Bitrate will make more of a difference to content than this stupid resolution game.
It was. But it's not where the largest growth is and "looking at it" isn't the same as "doing it."
It might be it appears, and there is a market, but most are buying bigger TVs.
It's still upscaled. Whether your TV does it or the HD feed does it.
Which means you are still focusing on, "8k means big TV."I'd hazard that the majority of bigger TV's are not being bought in the range that makes 8K a visible benefit.
Great. But nothing to do with TV manufacture. How does Samsung etc have a hand in it?I still prefer the source to have performed the upscaling and force black bars around the image than have my TV try to fill in the gaps.
Great. But nothing to do with TV manufacture. How does Samsung etc have a hand in it?And my original point mainly refers to channels such as Freesports & Premier 2 where the content owner has the rights/ability to broadcast in HD but only has an SD channel - I am fully aware of bandwidth limitations and additional costs of HD over SD but it's something that for me would enhance the viewing experience at home far more than an 8K screen.
Perhaps it's far easier to keep improving the resolution so it's a quick win.Obviously manufacturers are looking for the next big selling point but what I was trying to state is that my TV viewing experience would improve far more from better utilisation of existing technology at 4K rather than a further increase in resolution.
You seriously think that 8K and 4K screens of otherwise-equivalent image quality will cost the same amount of money to manufacture?If the price is no different, what's the issue?
Yes.You seriously think that 8K and 4K screens of otherwise-equivalent image quality will cost the same amount of money to manufacture?
Seriously?
Which means you are still focusing on, "8k means big TV."
See post 13.
Great. But nothing to do with TV manufacture. How does Samsung etc have a hand in it?
Great. But nothing to do with TV manufacture. How does Samsung etc have a hand in it?
Perhaps it's far easier to keep improving the resolution so it's a quick win.
Also you get both.
The jump from 1080p to 4K wasn't just resolution.
There was also HDR, Dolby Video etc.
Improvements in technology is constant. Screen resolution is just one aspect of it.
Unless you own a projector, it still is. The limits of human vision haven't changed in that time.Note. Five years ago, 4K was not only premium but also "pointless."
I'm not ignoring the point, it's a tangent. Improving TV channels to HD is out of the scope of the TV manufacturers. They might be improved or maybe it just isn't viable. I imagine that the most popular channels are those already in HD. Most available money will probably go to TV programme development and trying to improve old episodes of Morse isn't going to be there. Apparently CBS spent a lot of money on trying to improve Star Trek TOSYou've totally ignored my point.
Buying a new TV isn't compulsory. If you don't want one yet, don't buy one yet. At some point you will buy one though. Even if it's for no other reason than your old TV died. I'd be rather disappointed if fifty years from now TVs were still 4K as everyone thought 4K was enough and all the engineers quit.All I'm saying is the move to 8K resolution offers no visual benefit to myself and I suspect most people who will buy a TV in the next few years.
True. And there will be still other developments just as a higher resolution is.There is no HDR, Dolby Vision etc of the 8K generation as yet that can't be delivered with HDMI 2.1 on a 4K set.
What about this. You bought a 1080p TV years ago. You want a new TV now. You don't have HDR, HDR+, Dolby Video or anything else. You want a new TV which you expect to have for the next ten years. Buy a new 4K TV? Or how about an 8K TV when the price now isn't much more. Some will buy 8K because it is a degree of future proofing.You seem to be suggesting people aren't accepting 8K is here to stay, of course it is. What some of us are saying is there is yet to be any tangible benefit shown to suggest we need it.
They probably would. I'd love to see all TV broadcast in Dolby Atmos and delivered in 32K. Or lasered to my eyes.In regard to the things I suggested re improvements to current gen TVs, at no point have I said the TV manufacturers are responsible for producing this. I am saying these things would provide a tangible benefit to my viewing.