I'd think that 7.2.4 should be pretty much standard now
I'd think that 7.2.4 should be pretty much standard now
I'm surprised no bargain option? As always, we know that goes to the Denon 2xxx though...
I thought the Sony 1080 was giving the Denons a run for their money this year ?
Of course you'll also declare that you worked for Onkyo in the past, just to keep your advice/recommendations transparent and to highlight any possible bias?I think that the article should be renamed "Best AV Forums Reviewed Receivers of 2017. There are better receivers out there from the likes of Pioneer, Onkyo & Anthem but they don't get supplied for review...I've had a Denon and a couple of Marantz's in my pursuit for the Holy Grail and found it in an Onkyo...
According to a well established US site, 5.1 is still the most prolific surround sound setup. This is in the states where they've predominantly larger rooms at their disposal so cannot see 7.1.4 or even a 5.1.2 setup being dominant in the UK where rooms are substantially smaller?
Sorry but these prices are unrealistic for the average consumer. I don't spend this on a TV never mind a receiver. I'm at the Denon X520 lvl and I work offshore so have some cash to spend but not what's getting fielded here lol
That was actually 4 years ago now...I actually despised them for the infamous HDMI board fiasco which led to me leaving - so yes all above board. It's the sound I actually like.Of course you'll also declare that you worked for Onkyo in the past, just to keep your advice/recommendations transparent and to highlight any possible bias?
We would really like Onkyo (and now Pioneer) to send their wares for review. We have reviewed Anthem in the recent past as well, just to be clear. Of course we can only really recommend those items that we have fully tested, independent of any PR/manufacturer influence.
I'm referring to the Dolby Atmos enabled AVRs if you are going to produce one that has all the latest features why make one with 5.1.2 that needs extra amplification for 2 more channels and be more of a faff that would cost more anyway.
given the choice I imagine most would take the future proofing of 7.1.4 over 5.1.2 and should be standard feature in this type of AVR
We have reviewed the Anthem AVRs, although that was back in 2016, but if Pioneer and Onkyo won't send us review samples I can only wonder why?I think that the article should be renamed "Best AV Forums Reviewed Receivers of 2017. There are better receivers out there from the likes of Pioneer, Onkyo & Anthem but they don't get supplied for review...I've had a Denon and a couple of Marantz's in my pursuit for the Holy Grail and found it in an Onkyo...
I was hoping to get the STR-DN1080 in for review in time for this end of year list but it will be delivered once I get back from CES.The board hasn't reviewed the Sony though so it cannot be included within the list of receivers given a reward.
I could tell you the probable reason but the review I would need to reference has vanished from the forum. I wonder why...?We have reviewed the Anthem AVRs, although that was back in 2016, but if Pioneer and Onkyo won't send us review samples I can only wonder why?
Upfiring speakers should make 5.1.2 setups more achievable due to the issues encountered with ceiling speakers. Will/can they ever build front channel speakers with the upfiring speakers incorporated?According to a well established US site, 5.1 is still the most prolific surround sound setup. This is in the states where they've predominantly larger rooms at their disposal so cannot see 7.1.4 or even a 5.1.2 setup being dominant in the UK where rooms are substantially smaller?
Upfiring speakers should make 5.1.2 setups more achievable due to the issues encountered with ceiling speakers. Will/can they ever build front channel speakers with the upfiring speakers incorporated?
If AV receiver manufacturers really want to increase their sales they need to work more closely with speaker manufacturers to defeat the rise of the sound bars. Most like the idea of surround sound, including overhead effects are never going to install ceiling speakers as they can barely cope with running wires to rear surrounds even now!
The manufacturers need to get smart and work on moving the effects amplifiers to remote (wireless) boxes that can be placed near to the rear surrounds, which should include the addition of up-firing Atmos speakers. Maybe even consider the same for the left and right mains. Even better, come up with a standard amplifier modules that can be fitted into the speakers to provide wireless connection to the receiver. To allow competition how about a standard sized plug in space in the speakers to allow fitting of any manufacturers module? (Then only a mains or low voltage power supply connection is required to the speaker.) For higher end speaker this could include a larger space to allow bi-amping and more power.
Without some lateral thinking the market may shrink and become more esoteric as average users move to sound bars and similar solutions.
Upfiring speakers should make 5.1.2 setups more achievable due to the issues encountered with ceiling speakers. Will/can they ever build front channel speakers with the upfiring speakers incorporated?
I have similar thoughts. Phil Hinton always talks highly about the JBL Control 1s as height speakers and you can get them in black or white.I thought there were some dual front+upfiring atmos and some modules to attach to top of main speakers that were an exact fit?
The thing I find with most upfiring atmos is the angle seems too shallow to be useful - ie projecting a straight line would tend to make the bounce come down way before the listening position unless your ceiling is where the roof normally is or you stick on/near the floor - that's at only 2.75m horizontal distance.
I'm thinking of getting a pair of minx min 12s to either ceiling mount, or mount in an DIY up-firing mount depending on which works best.