DTS:X - Raising The Bar In Immersive Sound | DTSManufacturers representing nearly 90 percent of the home AV receiver and surround processor market, including Anthem, Denon, Integra, Krell, Marantz, McIntosh, Onkyo, Outlaw Audio, Pioneer, Steinway Lyngdorf, Theta Digital, Trinnov Audio, and Yamaha, have agreed to launch products supporting DTS:X in 2015.
Finally!!!!!!! Can start deciding on which amp to buy now on 9th April!!
Me too...but I'm thinking 9th April 2016, though I might put the speakers up before then once I know where they are suppose to go for DTS:X and if there is a suitable compromise to use the same speakers/locations for Atmos/Auro 3D.And then where to put the speakers... ?
The thing is even after how many years of 5.1 being available, I don't know anyone in my entire large family or circle of friends apart from me who actually has an old Dolby Digital 5.1 speaker setup in their house, never mind the newer DTS-HD or TrueHD capable amps or next-gen Atmos or DTS-X!!I highly doubt any of these formats stand a chance of becomig nearly as widespread as 5.1 is today.
I wasn't talking 'mainstream', I was only referring to those with home theaters Then again, to some a soundbar counts as a "home theater" lol.The thing is even after how many years of 5.1 being available, I don't know anyone in my entire large family or circle of friends apart from me who actually has an old Dolby Digital 5.1 speaker setup in their house, never mind the newer DTS-HD or TrueHD capable amps or next-gen Atmos or DTS-X!!
From my experience normal people have extremely low standards or interest in quality - most people are happy with low bitrate stereo pirate movie downloads or TV (SD quality) even and my pet hate the soundbar is as far as they will go.
Surround sound is extremely far from mainstream!
I knew a dyslexic insomniac agnostic who couldn't get to sleep at night because he couldn't figure out whether or not there was a dog.You'll also need another speaker down at floor level behind the screen for the voice of dog channel.
Lest this become an anti-height channel love-in, I suppose this is only aimed at people with dedicated rooms.I think Audioholics did some research into this with their membership which showed that even in the US where rooms are a lot bigger than here in the UK that 5.1 is still the predominant configuration. 7.1 didn't really catch on and overtake 5.1 so why should Atmos, DTS:X or any other new format that requires more than a 5.1 configuration? The only real reason for the newer HD formats taking hold is the fact that they didn't require more speakers or new layout configurations. The new object orientated formats do not make such a transition possible and it will make the new formats more a niche high end aspiration than a universally achievable reality.
I have very few friends/relations who have any interest in home cinema in the terms we think of it too. Some people count a TV as 'home cinema' too, when we all know that if it hasn't got a projector then it is just ' a big telly'.I wasn't talking 'mainstream', I was only referring to those with home theaters Then again, to some a soundbar counts as a "home theater" lol.
Ricky,Bleh. All this talk of immersive audio everywhere is getting to me.
Just like the constant babble of 3D home viewing did. Flop.
The amount of people able to install speakers the way that is actually recommend is diminishingly small. I highly doubt any of these formats stand a chance of becomig nearly as widespread as 5.1 is today. After all most folks interested in home theater don't have the luxury of a dedicated room. If that was the case it might be a different scenario.
Doesn't mean I don't believe in the benefits of immersive audio. But to me it only makes sense in a dedicated room and at the local theater than in the majority of "normal" homes.
Personally I don't want more channels, I want higher quality.
Rant over. Moving on.
Nope FH/RH are prescribed Atmos speaker locations.^ Front/Rear height speakers? You mean same principle as Audyssey DSX / Dolby Pro Logic IIz / DTS Neo:X Height? I was under the impression the effect can only be obtained with speakers in the ceiling firing downwards. At least that seems the recommendation. Difficult for most to implement in normal rooms. I'm just saying it'll be a hard sell for most home theater fans without dedicated rooms, not that it can't sound fantastic if done right.
You need to send an invite for a movie night! lol
No they are not. Dolby do not prescribe height speakers in any of their guides or for any of their Atmos speaker locations. Dolby only prescribe ceiling mounted or Atmos upward firing speakers. As far as Atmos goes, Dolby make no mention of height speakers what so ever for use as part of any Atmos configuration.Nope FH/RH are prescribed Atmos speaker locations.
BTW KK does not advocate the use if in ceiling speakers for object based audio.
I get that if you haven't heard Atmos one would be skeptical.
It's fantastic with the limited amount of blu rays available. The Dolby upmixer DSU us worth it alone for all your non Atmos movies.
Dolby specify the use of up to 34 speakers in an Atmos system. FH and RH ARE part of this specification.
D&M products allow for this Atmos speaker placement as does the Steinway P200 , Trinnov Altitude,Storm and Datasat RS20i processors.
Dolby recommends that these speakers are used in conjunction with either TF TM TR.
So YES they are DESIGNATED Atmos speaker locations.
I have spent many many hours with 5 different Atmos systems experimenting with the optimal Atmos layout for different rooms.
In my room FH's provide the best results. Dolby also recommend direct firing speakers for all speakers. I use tripole surrounds and will be using tripole for TM as they give far better results in medium and small rooms.
Dolby provide a set of guidelines.
I can assure you that I am def not running a pseudo Atmos system.
You will also find that DTS prescribe to the use of FH and RH speakers for DTS:X as well as in ceiling.
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Taken from the Dolby Atmos PDF
So in a nut shell - will my ATMOS speaker setup also work for DTS-X? I have a 5.1.2 setup (I know I will have to get a new amp for DTS-X most likely- I was just wondering about the ATMOS speakers I have already if they would work with DTS-X?