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Pugs1

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Despicable Me 1.
The entire opening scene was so immersive I could feel it in my bones!
Dont get that, i have that bluray but it doesn't say it's DTS:X (only DTS-MA), is your copy UHD?
 

dante01

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And for those still wondering if whether or not you are getting DTS:X if the receiver's display indicated DTS:X MA.

Yes, you are getting DTS:X and not the DTS-HD Master Audiocore audio:









It is a Yamaha receiver, but the same behaviour is true of all DTS:X capable AV receivers irrespective of make.
 

Roku2

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And for those still wondering if whether or not you are getting DTS:X if the receiver's display indicated DTS:X MA.

Yes, you are getting DTS:X and not the DTS-HD Master Audiocore audio:









It is a Yamaha receiver, but the same behaviour is true of all DTS:X capable AV receivers irrespective of make.
Seeing DTS:X MA dislayed on the front panel of my Denon always makes me feel all cozy and toasty inside :)
 

Roku2

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Is your house on fire?
There's just something about that little pop-up "Dolny Vision' sign on my TV and that DTS:X MA tag on my Denon that just put a BIG smile on my face. Hard to put it into words :)
 

dts

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Make sure you press the A. F. D button on the Sony strdn 1080 amp, that will then decode the dts x or dolby atmos soundtrack, cheak the sound levels, depending on how high you have your two ceiling speakers and adjust accordingly.
 

Roku2

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"special"
That's a good way of putting it.
Despicable Me 1 and 2 are the only two titles with both DTS:X and Dolby Vision available. I can't wait for these two formats to be included in other titles that are not entirely CG animation type!
 

gibbsy

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I keep x2 bluray discs to test if i have been "fiddling" and need to check.

One is American Sniper with Dolby Atmos.

The other is The Huntsman Winters War with DTS X .
American Sniper is very poor, hardly any overhead effects in the Atmos design. The only DTS:X title I own is Patriots' Day which has a really good immersive track.
 

wonderer

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I swear my 1080 is going out the window soon. Just cannot get DTS:X working out the overheads. And the more I fiddle with it the more the unresponsiveness off the receiver becomes apparent.

The only two movies I have to test are Serenity and Fate of the Furious. I have skipped through both movies in their entirety and not a single sound or effect is heard from the ceiling speakers. So apologies for sounding like a broken record but.....

1. The receiver shows DTS:X MA on the display so one can assume it is receiving the track OK from the Oppo.
2. The Oppo is outputting Bitstream with secondary audio set to off.
3. The receiver is set to A.F.D.
4. The setup plays Atmos tracks beautifully with a great range of overhead sounds and effects. So there is no hardware issue with the speakers or receiver.
5. The receiver is set to 5.1.2 (TM) as my setup has top middle speakers.

I am at a loss tbh and if anyone has any other magic settings I don't know please share. Thanks to Dante for his advice so far and photo confirmations of the DTS:X.

I don't have much hair but what little I have is being pulled out. I just cant seem to figure this out. Can people confirm that the DTS:X tracks with the two films above actually utilise the overheads? At this point I am thinking there can't be any height sounds to hear but I don't believe that with FOTF! :D

Also (as a side question) how do you get the audio details being played displayed on the Sony like Dante's images above? Or is it not possible on the 1080?
 

SilverEye

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I'll get Serenity tomorrow (it's waiting for me already) And ill try as soon as I get home (if in the meanwhile nobody comes forward)

Receiver is a Denon 2300
 

wonderer

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I'll get Serenity tomorrow (it's waiting for me already) And ill try as soon as I get home (if in the meanwhile nobody comes forward)

Receiver is a Denon 2300
I meant to post my message in the Sony 1080 thread but it applies here too. That would be great mate, thanks. Just need confirmation the overheads are not a blank slate (which I assume they are not)

Serenity is in DTS X?
Sure is.
 

SilverEye

Active Member
I meant to post my message in the Sony 1080 thread but it applies here too. That would be great mate, thanks. Just need confirmation the overheads are not a blank slate (which I assume they are not)
And just tested it.

The upfiring speakers are playing, not very often though - I think the first time I heard them was when they where followed by the reavers for the 1st time, and like for 2 seconds.

Denon 2300 says DTS:X MA

Tested on the Xbox One S
 
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wonderer

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And just tested it.

The upfiring speakers are playing, not very often though - I think the first time I heard them was when they where followed by the reavers for the 1st time, and like for 2 seconds.

Denon 2300 says DTS:X MA

Tested on the Xbox One S
Thanks mate. You wouldn't happen to have an exact time for that scene just so I can see if I can get anything out of mine? Guess I must just happen to have a couple of crappy DTS:X films in which to test height effects.

Based on this I am not very impressed with DTS:X. There are a silly amount of times where the overheads could be used on Fate of the Furious. Hoping for better performances on other movies.
 

SilverEye

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Thanks mate. You wouldn't happen to have an exact time for that scene just so I can see if I can get anything out of mine? Guess I must just happen to have a couple of crappy DTS:X films in which to test height effects.

Based on this I am not very impressed with DTS:X. There are a silly amount of times where the overheads could be used on Fate of the Furious. Hoping for better performances on other movies.
No problem. I've noticed them (speakers) at minute 21:05
from one speaker to the other.. engine noise for like 2 seconds.

I'll recommend you to try Van Helsing, as it has DTS:X and its blowing my mind sound wise, and I only have some dodgy upfire Onkyo speakers.. I can only imagine with the proper ceiling speakers..
 

Diagnosticz

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I have the XTZ S2 they where placed on top of a Monitor audio GX300 pair and Even though they looked out of place they where big enough to house the S2 pair.

I Just got new speakers which are much smaller so have put up some shelving about 10 cm higher than the front pair I will place the S2's on the shelf Right above the mains. My question is I have spread the mains further apart so are also further apart from my listening position and from my surrounds. Should I move the S2's in more so the sound bounces of the ceiling in the vicinity of my seating position ?
 

Jegadis

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I just bought harry potter UHD.When I played the movie my yamaha 1060 decodes its as DTS:X but 5.1.0?..It should be 5.1.x(x=2 or 4)?.i have Oppo udp 203 connected to yamaha.Audio via HDMI and surrounds decoder is Neutral:x on yamaha..Can experts please clarify?
 

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fayeanddavid

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I just bought harry potter UHD.When I played the movie my yamaha 1060 decodes its as DTS:X but 5.1.0?..It should be 5.1.x(x=2 or 4)?.i have Oppo udp 203 connected to yamaha.Audio via HDMI and surrounds decoder is Neutral:x on yamaha..Can experts please clarify?
Is the Oppo set to bit stream to let the Yamaha decode (assuming your Yamaha can decode DTS:X)
 

dante01

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I just bought harry potter UHD.When I played the movie my yamaha 1060 decodes its as DTS:X but 5.1.0?..It should be 5.1.x(x=2 or 4)?.i have Oppo udp 203 connected to yamaha.Audio via HDMI and surrounds decoder is Neutral:x on yamaha..Can experts please clarify?
I'm assuming you've only a 5.1 speaker configuratio without the additional presence speakers? You'd see 7.1.4 in the input section if you'd a 5.1.2 speaker setup with the additional speakers and the output would indicate 5.1.2. What you are getting is normal behaviour for a setup without the additional speakers present.
 

MartinGH1369

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I just bought harry potter UHD.When I played the movie my yamaha 1060 decodes its as DTS:X but 5.1.0?..It should be 5.1.x(x=2 or 4)?.i have Oppo udp 203 connected to yamaha.Audio via HDMI and surrounds decoder is Neutral:x on yamaha..Can experts please clarify?
I got it too and we can only get DTS to come up so far. I've looked through the settings and can't see any DTS MA or anything like it.
We are on my watching the Philosophers stone so far but I'm still not happy.
The picture is no better than the 1080p either, in fact I'm seeing more noise on the UHD version!
So far, for £80, I think that the 1080p boxset is better value.

I'm using a Denon AVR3300W receiver and an Xbox one X.
 

Rock Danger

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I'm using a Denon AVR3300W receiver and an Xbox one X.
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Also 'Sorcerers Stone'

The Hp UHD's are upscaled 2K masters which is what a lot of UHD discs are, however the pic quality airs on the side of slightly better among the nerds.

Anywho it might be your Xbox perhaps?
 

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