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NEWS: NAD Debuts T 778 Reference AV receiver

richardsim7

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I think nad are sticking to their policy of no osd overlay....do no harm passthrough only. It’s the thing that annoys me most about my t777. I used to have my cabinet closed and now have it open to see the screen (a pain). It’s not only the volume that is irksome, it’s that when you call up the osd it shuts off the image and it’s sloooow to boot up the osd. If the new screen can be set to auto dim/sh*t off and the characters are large, it might be an easier read from across the room then the current screen. Frankly I wish they would just do osd overlay
Are you aware of the user-created iOS/Android apps?
 

drillo

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Are you aware of the user-created iOS/Android apps?
Only Marcus’s one which didn’t support the 777 only 758 when I last looked.
I do use the Nad made one bc I like being able to change the channel volumes on the fly and alter things like dialogue enhancement as well but it’s too unstable - at least half the time I pick up my phone it won’t connect even with repeated attempts. Are there others to consider?
 

richardsim7

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Only Marcus’s one which didn’t support the 777 only 758 when I last looked.
I do use the Nad made one bc I like being able to change the channel volumes on the fly and alter things like dialogue enhancement as well but it’s too unstable - at least half the time I pick up my phone it won’t connect even with repeated attempts. Are there others to consider?
Markus' one now supports the T777v3 and the M17 :)
 

richardsim7

Distinguished Member
Downloaded it. Seems a bit laggy at times for me too - sometimes instant, sometimes won’t respond for a bit but on first use better than the nad remote for connection stability.
Also doesn’t appear to have the tone trims which is a shame.
Any lag will be down to your network, are you using WiFi for the NAD?
You could always email and suggest adding the tone functionality but you're probably the first and only to request it :D
 

drillo

Active Member
Any lag will be down to your network, are you using WiFi for the NAD?
You could always email and suggest adding the tone functionality but you're probably the first and only to request it :D
Yep WiFi - NAD dongle on 777

Emailed Marcus - hope he’s in a good mood
 

Chester

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I don't believe this would be an upgrade for an AVR850, but an AVR550 or AVR390? This might need a closer look next year...
 

steviedr

Distinguished Member
Noticed on the hi res image there is a SubW1 and a Subw2, while its states 7.1.4, is it 7.2.4?
If it had that and hdmi2.1 or upgradable board, consider me interested.
 

Mister_Tad

Active Member
If it had that and hdmi2.1 or upgradable board, consider me interested.
Most (all?) of the full size NAD gear is updgradeable with MDC modules

They're around £4-500 and theoretically user serviceable, but I think "officially" they're dealer fits. I know when my dealer swapped out an MDC on my T777 they had no previous experience in what they were doing and just followed the same steps and used the same tools I would have had.
 

JEDIBLADE

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Based on sound quality alone (not power), would this be an upgrade on an Arcam 550?
 

Thatsnotmynaim

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How can we tell, I don't know anyone has heard it yet, let alone with 'your' ears or taste, which is all that really counts surely.. :) Speculating on spec, DACs and pre-amps is not much help at this stage I'd say, although I'd say NAD's pedigree and previous sound quality is probably some comfort.
DAC hardware is one thing, but how that DAC is implimented and it's software is another more important factor, i.e. DAC ABC in a NAD may sound completly different to DAC ABC in an Audiolab due to how they've implimented it. A bad DAC can be a restriction, but a good one does not guarantee good sound...
In my speculative mind I suspect it will be good, may have potentially to have a 'few' bugs, may be a bit under speced compared to others in some respecs (ports, more processed channels), but have some nice extras others don't BluOS etc, but who knows..
AVR550 vs this, not taking power into account, I'd say they'll probably be on par with each other, although this may have better DIRAC implimentation, slots, bass mgt etc...
 

JEDIBLADE

Active Member
As long as there's no detriment in sound quality I might give it a go. Stingy warranty though, doesn't feel right spending over £2000 and only getting a 2 year warranty :(
 

Thatsnotmynaim

Well-known Member
Yes it’s 2 standard if you do nothing, but if you register it Arcam you get it extended to 5 for free. Most manufacturers that allow free extension of the statutory requirement want you to register. It’s common knowledge that Arcam do 5 years on their premium range and has been round like that for decade(s)...
 

saster

Active Member
And the warranty on Arcams are transferable, most other brands are not.
At least it was back in 2016 when I asked.
 

saster

Active Member
How can we tell, I don't know anyone has heard it yet, let alone with 'your' ears or taste, which is all that really counts surely.. :) Speculating on spec, DACs and pre-amps is not much help at this stage I'd say, although I'd say NAD's pedigree and previous sound quality is probably some comfort.
DAC hardware is one thing, but how that DAC is implimented and it's software is another more important factor, i.e. DAC ABC in a NAD may sound completly different to DAC ABC in an Audiolab due to how they've implimented it. A bad DAC can be a restriction, but a good one does not guarantee good sound...
In my speculative mind I suspect it will be good, may have potentially to have a 'few' bugs, may be a bit under speced compared to others in some respecs (ports, more processed channels), but have some nice extras others don't BluOS etc, but who knows..
AVR550 vs this, not taking power into account, I'd say they'll probably be on par with each other, although this may have better DIRAC implimentation, slots, bass mgt etc...
Considering the recent measurements of the 758v3, you have to question the "pedigree" .. they were really BAD! Even the M17 pre-amp showed signs of poor design in the digital domain.

audiosciencereview on the 758v3.
audiosciencereview on the M17v2

I do agree with you on the DAC. at these levels the brand of the DAC is not very important.. it is the implementation of it that matters.
 

Scott_Mac

Well-known Member
And the warranty on Arcams are transferable, most other brands are not.
At least it was back in 2016 when I asked.
It isn't anymore :(
 

Topcatone

Novice Member
HDMI 2.1 (or eARC specifically) is my main concern.... no mention of it though.

Crazy if they don't offer it!
Not sure about the release level, but my M10 has HDMI ARC...I use it via Roku to TV, then TV to M10. Only 2ch PCM audio though (spec says not compatible with Dolby Digital or DTS. I bought the M10 to use with my existing speakers and sub 2.1 system until I build a home theatre in a new home next year. T 778 might be a candidate since I want Atmos 7.1.4.
 

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