Ough... That's much lower than the DX750, EX750 and FX750, which already had limited peak brightness compared to other competitors.a peak brightness of 291 nits in the True Cinema accurate out of the box D65 setting.
Sorry, my Leo Bodnar is on the blink and I need to get it checked out. A new system I was trying is not entirely consistent with its results so I don't want to use it just yet. So apologies for missing it out on the GX800 review.B Unless I missed it in the review there was no mention of input lag and gaming performance @Phil Hinton?
No apologies necessary. It's been mentioned on other reviews, I just like to see it from avforums before I believe itSorry, my Leo Bodnar is on the blink and I need to get it checked out. A new system I was trying is not entirely consistent with its results so I don't want to use it just yet. So apologies for missing it out on the GX800 review.
Shame it’s not a bit brighter, but looking at the smaller versions as a “can’t squeeze in a 55” OLED” option.
Good to know that the DV/HDR10+ makes a difference.
Been looking forward to this review as it's had some good reviews elsewhere. The 58 inch is now £799 in most sites. Unless I missed it in the review there was no mention of input lag and gaming performance @Phil Hinton?
Was gonna get a hisense b7500 for my spare/gaming room but I've been considering this as a living room replacement for my Sammy mu7000 and then move that into the spare room. The gaming performance is key though as I'd likely use this for one console and one for the other...
I think it does have a wide colour gamut, its just no better than the WCG they had on their TVs in 2016.Disappointed to see Panasonic not including a WCG; that alongside hdr metadata could prove a winner.
I'd have to disagree, The q9fn and q90 r wipe the floor with it. Better contrast, viewing angles and operating system. The Sony was good but it was mid range at best.Sony almost nailed it with X930e. I would say it is better than many of the newer FALD TVs including Sony's own.
I think it does have a wide colour gamut, its just no better than the WCG they had on their TVs in 2016.
Its a good little TV, but I wouldn't buy it until prices come down closer to £500-600 at 55". I fear they have added all the dynamic meta data bells and whistles but are fighting a losing battle. It may be suited when it comes down in price for someone who knows they are going to use a lot of dynamic meta data HDR but the fact it will be so poor with static meta data HDR immediately makes it a poor choice for anyone wanting to enjoy games in HDR or titles that don't have HDR10+/Dolby Vision yet.
The review is 'incorrect' . ~90% of DCI P3 xy coverage meets UHD Premium standards (ok, so in this review it's 2% short), on what planet is this not a wide colour gamut?? It's barely any less than a Q90R in Movie mode ...The review says it doesn’t meet the standards expected of a WCG.
I'm not talking JUST about 100% points, which is not actually the most accurate way to measure, Looking at actual colour points (like saturation) is more accurate and combining all those results gives you more of an idea of actual performance, than just one measurement at a level no content will be played back at. Panasonic quote it as Wide colour spectrum, not wide colour gamut, but for a budget LCD TV it does fairly well. What I actually say in the review is:The review is 'incorrect' . ~90% of DCI P3 xy coverage meets UHD Premium standards (ok, so in this review it's 2% short), on what planet is this not a wide colour gamut?? It's barely any less than a Q90R in Movie mode ...
At Rtings they consider over 67% of BT2020 UV coverage wide colour gamut and this does 74% UV according to the review here.
The Dutch 40" review measured 91% DCI P3 (xy) coverage
I don't say anywhere in the review that it doesn't meet any standards when it comes to WCG, I state that it is short, especially in Red, Yellow and Green which is in the chart just above that quote above. There is nothing incorrect about my review or findings.review said:The wide colour gamut coverage is also slightly disappointing as the GX800B is not capable of reaching the DCI-P3 wide colour gamut coverage, but although that is the case, the colour points on the tracking chart do get pretty close in the lower saturation points and track there or thereabouts and this bodes well for some good colour reproduction with actual content.
Also everyone and their grandmother these days use the Bodnar device for input lag measurement and an AVF measurement is no better than your actual grandmother's measurement with the same device .
How this set can only measure 291 nits in True Cinema mode, yet the 50" in the same mode does 378 nits on a 5% window (and 100%; plus 92% DCI P3) and the 40" 425 on a 10% window (and fullscreen as well) would almost make you think the Bodnar device wasn't the only thing broken
Thanks for the reply .I'm not talking JUST about 100% points, which is not actually the most accurate way to measure, Looking at actual colour points (like saturation) is more accurate and combining all those results gives you more of an idea of actual performance, than just one measurement at a level no content will be played back at. Panasonic quote it as Wide colour spectrum, not wide colour gamut, but for a budget LCD TV it does fairly well. What I actually say in the review is:
I don't say anywhere in the review that it doesn't meet any standards when it comes to WCG, I state that it is short, especially in Red, Yellow and Green which is in the chart just above that quote above. There is nothing incorrect about my review or findings.
My Bodnar is on the blink, as pointed out above and why I won't use it. I won't publish data that I think is incorrect for whatever reason... I also have an HD Fury device I am testing, but again it is not proving to be consistent at the moment, so I am not using it yet.
There is quite a difference between 5% and 10% windows. A 5% window will in most cases be brighter when measured. The industry-standard test is a 10% window which is what we use. But of course, peak brightness is only one very small measurement to give you a true understanding of what is actually going on performance-wise. Plus we use meters that not every publication uses and we measure accurate image modes, which not everyone else does as they try and get the biggest number, which doesn't actually mean that much in the real world. Oh and a 50" is going to measure brighter than a 58" we tested. That's pretty obvious to work out and explain the difference in numbers.
Thanks for your feedback.
48” oled coming next year.