It's confirmed as a 2018 OLED panel.Thanks for the great review.
Do you know if the Philips use the new panel spotted here - seems to be a revised version of LGs 2018 OLED panel - now with a smaller blue sub-pixel. Maybe this is the first glimpse of LGs 2019 panel?
Philips 55OLED803 : un téléviseur Oled lumineux et performant
Up to the end user of course as to where they place value. But it should be a consideration to those looking at a 2018 OLED.great review phil,sounds like great picture quality but why pay £200 more than the 65 c8 at current prices.
@Phil Hinton Mr Hinton, I know that I need new glasses, but I can't seem to see a price for this Philips OLED anywhere in the review?
Best way to check would be to find a friendly dealer who can demo and let you test it out. I think Richer Sounds should have these and they are very accommodating in my experience to demos.Great review!
Shame about the input lag, how much will it affect a casual console gamer?
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The SRP is £2999.00@Phil Hinton Mr Hinton, I know that I need new glasses, but I can't seem to see a price for this Philips OLED anywhere in the review?
Thank you for the review.
Do you think input lag is really that crucial for single player games with a controller? The frame time shoud be around 33 for 30fps games, surely 38ms cant be that terribly noticable?
Also have you tried playing games with Perfect Natural Motion enabled?
Well, I have Oreo on the AF9 I am reviewing at the moment and it is far superior to the AF8 and 803, but it also has a better chipset so hard to tell if it would be as big an improvement on the Philips. They are sending me a 903 for review and I'll be doing some longer-term testing with that sample, so hoping to fully test Oreo as soon as it is available as the 803 and 903 are identical apart from the soundbar.So Oreo will be a great game-changer or a huge disappointment. Keep in mind that the right software runs great on underpowered CPUs. Let’s wait and see.
I would normally say that under 40ms is desirable on any TV. I, however, don't want to say it'll be fine for you as you really need to test it personally. I didn't try it with any processing switched on, the idea is to have the least amount going on for the best input lag. HTHsThank you for the review.
Do you think input lag is really that crucial for single player games with a controller? The frame time shoud be around 33 for 30fps games, surely 38ms cant be that terribly noticable?
Also have you tried playing games with Perfect Natural Motion enabled?
Only 2 full HDMI ports...two HDMI slots which are full bandwidth HDMI 2.0b ports capable of supporting 4:4:4 4K/60p signals. If you want to get the most from your 4K sources, such as an Xbox One X, these are the only two HDMIs that can support this.
The downwards facing connections include a further two HDMI slots which are not full bandwidth but will support 4K/30p signals, along with satellite and terrestrial tuners,
great review phil,sounds like great picture quality but why pay £200 more than the 65 c8 at current prices.
I would normally say that under 40ms is desirable on any TV. I, however, don't want to say it'll be fine for you as you really need to test it personally. I didn't try it with any processing switched on, the idea is to have the least amount going on for the best input lag. HTHs
Maybe I am wrong but the lag means that it needs 38ms between your controller command and actual movement on the screen. It has nothing to do with frequency so a calculation like 1/38ms is useless. Humans use controllers based on the visual input - the picture on TV. So actions are delayed.
Thanks for that.It's confirmed as a 2018 OLED panel.
The blue is smaller but the red is bigger. The French review is not the only one that showed the pixel structure so it definitely is in all the 803/903 sets ...Thanks for that.
I wonder what panel was in the Philips 803 reviewed in France then?
With the small blue sub-pixel shown in the photo it clearly isn't a standard 2018, or a 2017 panel.
Perhaps this is simply a mid-year revision to the 2018 panel.
I cannot see any reason why LG would ever want to reduce the size of a sub-pixel. Even if they did get a much more efficient blue emitter, wouldn't it be better to drive the same size sub-pixel less hard than have a smaller sub-pixel and drive it harder? (Especially as blue lifespan was the issue that resulted in LG increasing the size of that sub-pixel in the 2017 panel.)
I find it odd that Phillips will update the Android OS to version 8 when version 9 was released in August 2018.............on a TV with a suggested retail price of £2999.00 seems a little mean to me :-(