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Weird then; must be certain owners' sets experiencing these snafus...No change here on the HDMI inputs and internal tuner.
Never noticed "fit to screen" on apps so can't comment on that...
Weird then; must be certain owners' sets experiencing these snafus...No change here on the HDMI inputs and internal tuner.
Never noticed "fit to screen" on apps so can't comment on that...
A while back I posted about the HDR+ option. Finally had the time to test it properly.
I used the same settings for Movie HDR+ as for the normal Movie mode.
It looks exactly the same as normal Movie for SDR sources, except for two things.
The most important is that HDR+ disables highlight crushing on very dark SDR scenes.
(sorry for the phone images, but easier to show than to explain )
SDR movie, clipping of 100% bar (looks the same as 90%)
SDR movie HDR+, 100% and 90% properly displayed
SDR movie, clipping on the bottom planet
SDR movie HDR+, no clipping all details visible
There's also a slight change to highlight colour saturation, most noticeable on blue. But it's a very slight and hard do photograph.
Interesting don't you think ?
Interestingly, I DID notice that once my panel started receiving 2160 incoming resolution (from the Cambridge), the Fit to Screen's AUTO selection disappeared as an option, where it was once there before (when previously receiving 1080p resolution from my older Oppo BD player)...
Someone at Blu-ray.com had told me that it was probably because the television just won't provide the option of "Auto" with full 4K signals as they're "not really supposed to be overscanned," or something to that effect....
Without trawling through all the posts, does anyone have any recommended Auto Motion Plus settings? Ones that will improve picture without introducing SOE on 24p material? (If such a thing exists) I've currently got it enabled but set to 0/0 as recommended. Thanks in advance
I use Blur: 10 and Judder: 5; seems to provide smooth motion without SOE (or just a SMIDGEN of it on certain content).Without trawling through all the posts, does anyone have any recommended Auto Motion Plus settings? Ones that will improve picture without introducing SOE on 24p material? (If such a thing exists) I've currently got it enabled but set to 0/0 as recommended. Thanks in advance
That's pretty much what I was saying...With a 2160 source signal, the ‘Auto’ function sort of becomes defunct. Since there are enough pixels to fill the screen by default.
A 2160 signal will have enough pixel to fill the screen; so “fit to screen” would be ‘on’, by default, unless you wish to turn it ‘off’ and force through any difference in signal from the source.
But you have your CXUHD upscale everything to 2160, so the NU just assumes that it is a native 2160, as it can’t tell the difference. So if you switched your CXUHD to output in something different than 2160, the ‘Auto’ option would likely be available again.
I have the gamma left to zero, yet i see many people recomending -1? Also brightness to -1? How does this all work, what's the advice.
Both the gamma and the brightness you mean?People recommend it in order to try to "improve" the black level performance of the TV.
In reality, it merely creates a darker image with black crush through raising the value level of what the TV sees as 'video black'.
Best advice IMO is to leave it alone.
Both the gamma and the brightness you mean?
Perhaps you should explain to him the differences between gamma and brightness in terms of what each truly changes or controls; for example, how gamma can actually shift the brightness of the entire image, not just near-black (like we once discussed)...Yes, both of them.
Gamma 0 on the NU translates to gamma 2.4.
For SDR content you need it to be 2.2, so set the NU's gamma to 1 or 2 (but no more). That will bring it near 2.2..
I know this is what folks like Foster and I have been discussing almost ad nauseum at this point in this thread, but I gotta say...while I am very tempted to drop this from my "11" setting right now even lower (for SDR), I have reservations because I'd be dropping the overall light output for DVD and Blu-ray playback, and as it is, "11" is kinda pushing it in terms of where that should be (for about 100 or so nit output for SDR)...As for black, it's controlled by Backlight (Brightness only sets the black clipping point).
So for deeper blacks simply drop the backlight.
But for viewing in a COMPLETELY dark (or very dim) room/environment, I'd have to say "0" is better (for around the aforementioned 2.4 curve)
I'd just rename the sliders Black, Black Clipping and White Clipping (instead of Backlight, Brightness and Contrast) because that's what they set on a LCDSamsung should have just done what every other manufacturer does and implement a BRIGHTNESS control to adjust BLACK LEVEL parameters
Depends on what's more important for you. If it is calibrated settings (or getting close to them) then you want gamma 2.2. If it is your own tweaks, then go for whatever you like best.
I'd just rename the sliders Black, Black Clipping and White Clipping (instead of Backlight, Brightness and Contrast) because that's what they set on a LCD
Just to be sure we're talking about the same thing -- where is this setting located on our NU's? Are you referring to that old setting parameter for HDMI Black Level that Samsung dropped from certain sets (if not all)?Brightness works along with the HDMI Black Level. Both settings control the black clipping point and are effective. It you set HDMI Black Level to Normal you get a lower clipping point, that you can then fine tune with Brightness. As far as I can tell this gives you full control of the incoming HDMI signal.
....given its somewhat poor, elevated blacks (in general)...
Then that selection is greyed out on my panel (feeding it a 2160p signal for that input).HDMI Black Level is on the External Device Manager screen.
I don't have any models to compare it to; I'm simply saying that, to my eyes, the blacks are poor on this set in pitch black conditions, which has had me in the past experimenting with lowering Brightness and Gamma (I know quite a few owners of this model and other Samsungs, including QLEDs, have experimented with dropping these controls over on AVS Forum if you take a gander around their TV threads).Compared with what ? What models (within the same price range of course) are better ?
Then that selection is greyed out on my panel (feeding it a 2160p signal for that input).
That being said, I did kind of promise Foster that I wouldn't complain anymore about the set's black level performance here and just deal with it until I can upgrade, so that's all I'll say about it....