Should Big Ben Chime to mark the EU exit on the 31st Jan?

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Should Big Ben Chime to mark the EU exit on the 31st Jan?

  • Yes

    Votes: 24 29.3%
  • No

    Votes: 33 40.2%
  • Don't care

    Votes: 25 30.5%

  • Total voters
    82
  • Poll closed .
I voted UKIP to force the reforendum, voted Conservative , voted Brexit party as a reminder to that false start to get it done .

Do I really need a bong to rub people's noses in that we are leaving ? No I do not as a total waste of people's time an money .

We are leaving , nuff said . Loads of real work to be done than this bull crap , no time should be wasted on this.
 
And you, SteakAndCake, there on the sad height,
Curse, bless, me now with your fierce tears, I pray.
Do not go gentle into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the Remain light.

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The MPs' £500,000 estimate of allowing Big Ben to bong on Brexit night is more than 30 times more than the bill for sounding Parliament's Great Bell on New Year's Eve, The Daily Telegraph can disclose.

The news risks undermining the House of Commons's Commission decision not to allow Big Ben to chime at 11pm on Jan 31 on grounds of cost.

It will put further pressure on Parliament to allow the bongs to sound. By lunchtime today £220,000 had been raised by members of the public to cover the cost of the Brexit night bongs.

The Commission formally rejected a request to allow the Great Bell to chime on Monday saying that contractors had said it would cost £500,000.

This covered the cost of reinstating a floor underneath Big Ben that was removed after New Year’s Day, as well as reinstalling the temporary equipment needed to make the bell sound

However that figure has been called into question after Sir Paul Beresford, a senior Tory MP, told MPs today that the bell cost just £14,200 to sound on other occasions.

Sir Paul told Tory MP Mark Francois in a Parliamentary answer: "The costs associated with striking Big Ben on Remembrance Sunday and New Year's Eve in 2019 were £14.2k including VAT on each occasion."
 
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The MPs' £500,000 estimate of allowing Big Ben to bong on Brexit night is more than 30 times more than the bill for sounding Parliament's Great Bell on New Year's Eve, The Daily Telegraph can disclose.

The news risks undermining the House of Commons's Commission decision not to allow Big Ben to chime at 11pm on Jan 31 on grounds of cost.

It will put further pressure on Parliament to allow the bongs to sound. By lunchtime today £220,000 had been raised by members of the public to cover the cost of the Brexit night bongs.

The Commission formally rejected a request to allow the Great Bell to chime on Monday saying that contractors had said it would cost £500,000.

This covered the cost of reinstating a floor underneath Big Ben that was removed after New Year’s Day, as well as reinstalling the temporary equipment needed to make the bell sound

However that figure has been called into question after Sir Paul Beresford, a senior Tory MP, told MPs today that the bell cost just £14,200 to sound on other occasions.

Sir Paul told Tory MP Mark Francois in a Parliamentary answer: "The costs associated with striking Big Ben on Remembrance Sunday and New Year's Eve in 2019 were £14.2k including VAT on each occasion."

Might that be because those events were known about and built into the project plan?

If they've now since started major structural work on the assumption that there were no new reasons to ring the bell, they will need to undo this work, then the whole project is behind schedule accruing more costs to make up the lost work with overtime payments. We also don't know about any contractual penalties that the government need to pay for unscheduled change or scope creep.

You're introducing unplanned change into a major works project. This is always going to get expensive especially considering the specialist companies that work on buildings like St. Stephen's Tower.
 
You don't need bongs at midnight.

I'm sorted with this and some Kraken.

 
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The MPs' £500,000 estimate of allowing Big Ben to bong on Brexit night is more than 30 times more than the bill for sounding Parliament's Great Bell on New Year's Eve, The Daily Telegraph can disclose.

The news risks undermining the House of Commons's Commission decision not to allow Big Ben to chime at 11pm on Jan 31 on grounds of cost.

It will put further pressure on Parliament to allow the bongs to sound. By lunchtime today £220,000 had been raised by members of the public to cover the cost of the Brexit night bongs.

The Commission formally rejected a request to allow the Great Bell to chime on Monday saying that contractors had said it would cost £500,000.

This covered the cost of reinstating a floor underneath Big Ben that was removed after New Year’s Day, as well as reinstalling the temporary equipment needed to make the bell sound

However that figure has been called into question after Sir Paul Beresford, a senior Tory MP, told MPs today that the bell cost just £14,200 to sound on other occasions.

Sir Paul told Tory MP Mark Francois in a Parliamentary answer: "The costs associated with striking Big Ben on Remembrance Sunday and New Year's Eve in 2019 were £14.2k including VAT on each occasion."
Looks like it will sadly fall short.
 
Might that be because those events were known about and built into the project plan?

If they've now since started major structural work on the assumption that there were no new reasons to ring the bell, they will need to undo this work, then the whole project is behind schedule accruing more costs to make up the lost work with overtime payments. We also don't know about any contractual penalties that the government need to pay for unscheduled change or scope creep.

You're introducing unplanned change into a major works project. This is always going to get expensive especially considering the specialist companies that work on buildings like St. Stephen's Tower.
You missed the point again?

1. It was well known there was an intention for Big Ben to be used for this. Note when this thread started. There are rumours in westminster the clapper has been removed on the order of remainers to sabotage that.
 
Great news if it does fall short anyway.

No needless bongs and it all goes to charity instead. Wins all round.

(Keep the bongs for something important like Remembrance Day).

(no need for them on New Year either btw).
 
Disagree - I think they are needed for NYE. It's a massive celebration in London (fireworks included) and actually DOES bring everyone together, regardless of beliefs, political or otherwise. I personally think that is worth the money.
 
I can't agree with that, but I guess if you consider NYE a special day that's fair comment.

If I didn't suffer from insomnia I'd be in bed and asleep by midnight on New Year! :laugh:
 
You missed the point again?
Big Ben rang on New Year's Eve as part of a carefully orchestrated programmed restoration process. They then packed the clapper and it's associated paraphernalia away to continue the restoration. Undoing that will cost a lot and will put the program back a lot. An estimated £500,000. Get over it.
 
Big Ben rang on New Year's Eve as part of a carefully orchestrated programmed restoration process. They then packed the clapper and it's associated paraphernalia away to continue the restoration. Undoing that will cost a lot and will put the program back a lot. An estimated £500,000. Get over it.
It was touted before New Years Eve it could be used for leaving the EU. I don't see why it's all suddenly a surprise now.

One of the people involved phoned into LBC and said all the stuff about flooring is unnecessary. You can ring the thing remotely. He installed the device.

As I said before,

I wasn't bothered, but the more I see remoaners (and I mean those remainers who are moaning) bothered by it, the more it will lead to people throwing in cash.

I'd say that's happened. It's unlikely I'd hear it anyway. I wasn't planning on going anywhere. Chances are either me or 0A will be working.

Then there's this.


The battle for Big Ben to bong on Brexit night has descended into farce after it emerged that a six-figure sum donated by Brexiteers cannot be used to fund the chiming of Parliament's Great Bell.

After Boris Johnson called on the public to “bung a bob” for Big Ben to sound the moment Britain leaves the EU, more than £150,000 was raised on the Go Fund Me crowdfunding site.

But last night the House of Commons Commission - chaired by the Speaker - said the money could not be used because of parliamentary rules on financial donations.

It could be £10 million raised right now and it couldn't be used.
 
After Boris Johnson called on the public to “bung a bob” for Big Ben to sound the moment Britain leaves the EU, more than £150,000 was raised on the Go Fund Me crowdfunding site.

But last night the House of Commons Commission - chaired by the Speaker - said the money could not be used because of parliamentary rules on financial donations.

Well I for one am absolutely mortified our own PM doesn't know Parliamentary rules.

What. A. Shocker.
 
Hilarious thread. Must have been a remainer who wrote those parliamentary rules.
 
Hilarious thread. Must have been a remainer who wrote those parliamentary rules.

I heard a rumour it was that pesky EU outfit.

Actually sums the whole farce up nicely. We have thousands of people unwittingly giving money to charity under false pretences :laugh:

Great news for the charity of course :smashin: perhaps not for Joey P who might not have wanted to donate to charity this particular week! He wanted some bongs instead!
 
It could be £10 million raised right now and it couldn't be used.

We knew this yesterday, so I'm not sure why you are surprised. It's all going to Help for Heroes :clap:
 
We knew this yesterday, so I'm not sure why you are surprised. It's all going to Help for Heroes :clap:

You know I think I might throw some money at this bong charity gig

It can never be said then I didn't get behind Brexit :D
 
We knew this yesterday, so I'm not sure why you are surprised. It's all going to Help for Heroes :clap:

No that's different. That was if the target wasn't reached.


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It won’t reach 500k anyway.

If it doesn’t the money is being donated to Help for Heroes.

If the money fell short of £500, 000 by the weekend or if there was a surplus then it would go to Help The Heroes.

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Even if the money was there, this second, it can't be used.

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If the money fell short of £500, 000 by the weekend or if there was a surplus then it would go to Help The Heroes.
Just what I said then? I would have that thought that you, almost more than any one on here would have been delighted that this money is going to HFH
 
You know I think I might throw some money at this bong charity gig

It can never be said then I didn't get behind Brexit :D
Personally I thought SSAFA was better if you want to give money to a forces charity, but your money, your choice.

Hey, I gave money to the Labour party and I'm a paid up member.
 
Last time this was discussed you said it was a joke and you didn't actually do it.

Have you really signed up this time or is this more bollocks?
 
Just what I said then?
The crowdfund said the money would go to HFH if not enough or too much was raised. The government is now saying they can't accept it at all. Boris should never have said it could have been crowdfunded in the first place. Apparently it can't.
I would have that thought that you, almost more than any one on here would have been delighted that this money is going to HFH
SSAFA is the oldest armed forces charity. I don't see why there's a need for any others. The cynical side of me wonders if the other charities were set up so the board on all the others can pay themselves money. There only needs to be one charity. The rest of them dilute that, but what people do with their money is up to them.

I don't think is this is about having Big Ben go bong. It's down to other things.

1. I think most of those donating are doing it more to send a FU to those who spent years trying to delay Brexit and crowdfunding attempts to stop it. The fact people will throw money at it is an obvious way of saying "we want to leave."

2. Back to an earlier point.

2. What is Boris/the government doing? They were elected to "get Brexit done" and then they won a large majority. Why isn't the government doing anything?
If we have a lot of people throwing hundreds of thousands of pounds at this why isn't a government that was elected to get Brexit done etc doing anything at all?

Not even a few boxes of standard fireworks.

I'm pretty sure global news will be reporting on the UK leaving the EU, what will they film?

Farage etc arranged something.
 

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