What happened to the movie industry ?

Stopped it as soon has the moustache wielding **** started comparing Godfather, Apocalypse Now etc to Transformers yadda yadda yadda. Try doing like for like comparisons for a fair fight.
its not just about like for like comparisons its about the state of the movie industry, if you watch it fully you may understand what's going on with it. As for the presenter and how he looks is a very cheap shot, suppose your some sort of Adonis.
 
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The argument isn't really 'new vs old', its more 'commercialism vs art'. That distinction is hardly new.

The big cgi franchises are studio tent-poles to generate revenue, so they tend to be formulaic and low risk. Why wouldn't they be, with hundreds of millions of dollars at stake?

If you want consistent quality and more down to earth subject matter, venture outside of the big Hollywood studios. A24 has been making some absolutely cracking lower budget American films since 2012, and no 'spandex' in sight.

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A24 has been making some absolutely cracking lower budget American films since 2012, and no 'spandex' in sight.

Ok your letterboxd account watched movies to be honest there are a few I have not watched, but did the majority make money or even brake even then why couldn't the big studios make these? don't they get the scripts/screenplays is no one capable of seeing a possible Gem, to speculate is to accumulate.
and that's were A24 company come in, three men from the movie and production business get together and start to produce gems in film and tv knowing farewell that Hollywood is on its arse and stitched up by Disney. The link to the video I posted has over 5000 comments the vast majority agreeing with the presenter along with me.
 
I haven’t read through all the posts yet but my quick 2cents is that there has always been dreck and quality being produced by Hollywood. As already mentioned, there are various personal factors as to why it may seem to have gotten worse - e.g. our age and nostalgia - but it probably hasn’t. Netflix is just the modern day equivalent of the DTV platform. Also, even if you feel movie output are getting worse; there is also the thing that TV material has improved significantly.
 
Ok your letterboxd account watched movies to be honest there are a few I have not watched, but did the majority make money or even brake even then why couldn't the big studios make these? don't they get the scripts/screenplays is no one capable of seeing a possible Gem, to speculate is to accumulate.
and that's were A24 company come in, three men from the movie and production business get together and start to produce gems in film and tv knowing farewell that Hollywood is on its arse and stitched up by Disney. The link to the video I posted has over 5000 comments the vast majority agreeing with the presenter along with me.

This talk about 'breaking even' etc is a popular concern because these days because big movies cost over $100 million to make, and double or triple that to market. So a big tent-pole eg a Marvel movie needs to gross something like half a billion to be considered even a moderate success. The reason Hollywood seems to cater for 'franchise' fare is that its often a sure thing, while people don't support original content any more. Films like Tomorrowland, Alita or Edge of Tomorrow were flops not because they were poor, but because no bugger wanted to watch them.

Smaller indie films don't have such vast budgets so don't need to rely too heavily on box office return to be successful. They are films made for film fans, not the casual mass market. That is a safer market.

Don't forget also that the big studios invest money in the smaller ones, so the revenue from, say, Aquaman or Avengers, will help support the smaller projects. Like any industry, the movie business is complex.

I haven't watched your video as I'm at work, and while there's a case to be made for film quality declining, its more likely to be a commercial issue rather than a creative one. As for YouTube commentators 'agreeing', I couldn't give a toss about that as most people are clueless and enjoy echo chambers.
 
Mainstream viewers only want to watch sequels/“franchise” stuff these days it would seem. Possibly more of an indictment of social demographics than quality output. Take the Tom Cruise example - he’s still making good ‘non sequel’ sci-fi such as the aforementioned Edge of Tomorrow and also Oblivion. However, they didn’t perform as well box office-wise as his Mission Impossible movies.
 
The link to the video I posted has over 5000 comments the vast majority agreeing with the presenter along with me.

Ahhh... I get where your coming from now. Only I am right and your all wrong.

Funny.
 
Ahhh... I get where your coming from now. Only I am right and your all wrong.

Funny.
Yeah I supose it's sounds that way but what I was meaning was that I too agree with the video presenter along with the other 5000+ comments. Believe me I'm a true movie lover and I'm seeing the end of the movie industry and the Internet is full of its demise . Even the film stars magazine Variety has a piece on the decline....
 
Ahhh... I get where your coming from now. Only I am right and your all wrong.
Yeah I supose it's sounds that way

No, it doesn't sound that way, it is that way. Enjoy your thread. I know an immovable object when I see one. Like talking to a brick wall...
 
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Yeah I supose it's sounds that way but what I was meaning was that I too agree with the video presenter along with the other 5000+ comments. Believe me I'm a true movie lover and I'm seeing the end of the movie industry and the Internet is full of its demise . Even the film stars magazine Variety has a piece on the decline....

It isn't in decline. Ignoring what's happening with the virus obviously, it has been thriving, finding new platforms like Netflix, and foreign cinema is now ready to make that big step up after Parasite's Oscar win. There was some unbelievable foreign films anyway, but I expect even more now.

And the blockbusters will keep coming. Plus we have a pool of very talented writers and directors.
 
No, it doesn't sound that way, it is that way. Enjoy your thread. I know an immovable object when I see one. Like talking to a brick wall...
Mod comment Rain it in, no need for that they been fairly respectful to you in replies, and he just may feel the same way about you.
 
I think theres the same level of quality today as there has been through out the history of Cinema. For any given decade 94% of what comes out of Hollywood is crap. 3% is good and 3% is excellent.

I think the only problem the OP has is the modern style of movie making has changed. The slow paced cinematography of yesteryear has now been replaced by a fast handheld shakefest.

Some old Directors have tried to change with the times like Ridley Scott while some new directors have tried to turn back time like Sam Mendes with 1917 or Christopher Nolan with Dunkirk.

I can enjoy Deadpool as much as Joker even though they are both comic book charracters the style and subject matter are completely different. They are both excellent films is their own right.
 
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The overriding theme of this thread and the OP is subjective to say the least. Nothing wrong with that and no harm done.

Example - I Think Avengers Endgame is a masterpiece. But thats only my opinion.
 
Example - I Think Avengers Endgame is a masterpiece. But thats only my opinion.

That’s not the most controversial of opinions, mate. :D Now, if you said you think Batman Vs Superman or Cobra is a masterpiece.....
 

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