Aaron Macarthy Beards
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EU competition law in part is about preventing abuse of a dominant market position and creating a monopoly. Google dominate online searches and advertising and Chrome has large market share.This happened to Microsoft with IE and now Google. Apple seem to be OK supplying their software on their devices though?
EU competition law in part is about preventing abuse of a dominant market position and creating a monopoly. Google dominate online searches and advertising and Chrome has large market share.
Safari does not.
No citation at all but ok yeah my post was wrong about browser market share. So are you offering an opinion about whether or not bundling Google apps on Android does or does not mean Google are manipulating the market?Mobile browser usage
UK Safari 47% Chrome 43%
USA Safari 51% Chrome 42%
No citation at all but ok yeah my post was wrong about browser market share. So are you offering an opinion about whether or not bundling Google apps on Android does or does not mean Google are manipulating the market?
iOS may be locked down but what is the market share of Siri and other Apple systems. Is Facebook and Apple enough to prevent Google being in a dominant positionThey do, but odd they also don't go after Apple with the same rules, especially as iOS is locked down a lot more than Android in terms apps etc.
As no one outside of South Korea seems to like Samsung apps it unfortunately means the EU are unlikely to ban Samsung pre-installed apps!
iOS may be locked down but what is the market share of Siri and other Apple systems. Is Facebook and Apple enough to prevent Google being in a dominant position
I have not read into it, but presumably it matters to the EU that Google pays Apple for Google to be the default search engine
Apple / Safari does offer alternative search engines, they offer Google, Yahoo, Bing and DuckDuckGoThis was answered above.. Mobile browser usage...
UK Safari 47% Chrome 43%
USA Safari 51% Chrome 42%
So if Google is paying Apple for making google the default search engine, why isn't the EU asking Apple to address this on iOS? i.e. force Apple to make changes to it's platform to allow alternative search engines? It seems to me, Apple doesn't have a search engine, but is happy to take the cash from Google, so Apple are also part of the problem (and solution)
I wasn't aware of that, so now I don't understand Steven's point!Apple / Safari does offer alternative search engines, they offer Google, Yahoo, Bing and DuckDuckGo
No citation at all but ok yeah my post was wrong about browser market share. So are you offering an opinion about whether or not bundling Google apps on Android does or does not mean Google are manipulating the market?
Google pay Apple to be the default search engine. The user can still change the search engineI wasn't aware of that, so now I don't understand Steven's point!
I wasn't aware of that, so now I don't understand Steven's point!
The bottom line is that these companies should be treated the same and in both cases, they shouldn't be allowed to close down the platform for their own benefit, especially when both of these companies are in such a dominant position.
i.e. Apple's net worth is actually x4 more than Google, so from those facts, which is most dominant?
And again, Android allows the installation of alternative "app stores", where as Apple doesn't. e.g. you can install the Amazon App store on Android, can you do this on iOS? And is the app Store on iOS a huge revenue earner and is this unfair competition?
It's like buying a car from Tesco's and only being allowed to purchase Tesco petrol!
If you have 50 phones makers using android they have to install certain Google products like Gmail or Chrome etc. The problem is Goggle are forcing them to do it rather than have them install alternative default apps. That's why Samsung phones tend to have duplicate apps. That's the issue they had with Windows, because IE was installed on PC's it meant most people wouldn't install another browser therefore killing off competition.
Apple is different as no one else is making iPhones so they are not forcing anyone to install their apps.
Hope I explained this well. Ultimately most people will just install Google apps anyway.
If you have 50 phones makers using android they have to install certain Google products like Gmail or Chrome etc. The problem is Goggle are forcing them to do it rather than have them install alternative default apps. That's why Samsung phones tend to have duplicate apps. That's the issue they had with Windows, because IE was installed on PC's it meant most people wouldn't install another browser therefore killing off competition.
Apple is different as no one else is making iPhones so they are not forcing anyone to install their apps.
Hope I explained this well. Ultimately most people will just install Google apps anyway.
It is no different. It doesn't matter that no one else are making iPhones, this is about blocking out competition on their platform.
e.g.
A lawsuit that claims Apple is anticompetitive is heading to the Supreme Court
FTC's Apple Music investigation focuses on anti-competitive practices
Apple probed in Japan for anti-competitive moves against Yahoo game platform
Apple also deserves an EU fine for its anti competitive practices, like Google - Blog | Knowband
You've gone off on a different tangent from what the OP posted which was about Android manufacturers.
Again, Apple are not in the search business.
Neither are Apple yet in the dominant position of when Microsoft were scrutinised over IE bundling